Trouble with doppelganger, low level - Guild Wars Forums

I Likeggs · Oct 03, 2010, 02:19 PM // 14:19

As the title states, I'm a level 5. I am an E/Mo. Already tried a few things, but I am open to anything before I decide to just level higher.

jensyea · Oct 03, 2010, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Take blinding flash, make sure you have atleast 8 points in air magic, use it every time it recharges and wand him to death with an air staff. Not sure if your able to put 8 points in air magic at lvl 5 (think so), if not use some consumables to boost it up. Piece of cake.

Bristlebane · Oct 03, 2010, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Use skills that will give you an advantage, things AI can't handle too well.

ie.
Meteor Shower .. slow cast, long recharge, let doppleganger waste his time casting it and just move out of the way. Doppleganger wouldn't be as clever, and while he is KD by Met Showers you throw in a quick snare and pick him off.

Master of Magic would be a great elite at your level, giving you 12 in all elemental attributes. This skill is also great if you would beat Doppleganger in HM as it would gimp his otherwise overpowered attributes down to 12.

sonofthort · Oct 03, 2010, 04:33 PM // 16:33

This requires a bit of skill, but you can actually dodge all of the dopplegangers stuff. I would bring air attunement, blinding flash, and lightning orb. He won't be able to hit you with his weapon, but he can hit you with lightning orb. However, it is possible to dodge lightning orb. Also, as I'm sure you already know, don't bring any healing or defense skills. I might also take the suggestion of putting metoer shower in the build just to make the doppleganger waste time. Glyph of Essence and Glyph of Sacrifice might also be particularly effective as they will disable the doppleganger for a good amount of time after he uses them. GL

Bristlebane · Oct 03, 2010, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Yeah, I agree on Glyph of Sacrifice, that might work.

Master of Magic
Glyph of Sacrifice
Meteor Shower
Blinding Flash
Grasping Earth

No matter if he use Glyph on MS or BF he's screwing himself over, you can just wand him and finish him of with Glyph + MS. If he cast slow MS, glyph+MS him, run in and snare him with Grasping Earth.

I Likeggs · Oct 03, 2010, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Thanks for all the great replies, blinding flash worked quite well

jensyea · Oct 03, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13

No problem, most of the characters I've beaten him with 7/9 or so, used just blinding flash. It works great on every profession. Have fun!

Songbringer · Oct 03, 2010, 10:28 PM // 22:28

For the future if I were you and creating a new char. Always go /n and then vs doppleganger bring awaken the blood+as many skills that sac health that wont hurt you to much. He will kill himself in like 2 seconds.

For now.

I agree with Bliding Flash except he will use it on you so the wanding him idea might not work. Glyph Sac and Glyph of Essence might help if he uses sac on blinding flash then he won't have it for awhile. Maybe Lightning Javelin to rupt him while he attacks. Could also go with Thunderclap if you could tome the elite. He won't move out of the ring that causes daze after a few seconds. So you could wand and interupt him and when he uses thunderclap on you just move out of the way.

Could also bring all the attunements because he will stand at the start and cast them all before he starts casting on you. It works like that with ranger spirits as well. I used to bring like 6 ranger spirits + poison arrow+kindle(back before burning arrow existed) to kill him really easily.

I Likeggs · Oct 04, 2010, 12:44 AM // 00:44

The /N idea is a great one, and I will surely be doing it in the future (:

Ailina · Oct 04, 2010, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Also, you can go /R and bring a pet and pet skills. He is then completely useless, since he doesn't have a pet and thus can't use any of your skills, and he'll go down in like 3 seconds.

Also, PvE skills are great, since he can't use them.

ac1inferno · Oct 04, 2010, 02:44 AM // 02:44

For more strategies against the Doppelganger for each profession, visit:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Augury_Rock

The Wiki also has a lot of useful information on other things.

Do A Barrel Roll · Oct 04, 2010, 06:29 AM // 06:29

I always go /w when I start new characters, just for the doppelganger.
The only skill I bring is frenzy, always works :P

Arduin · Oct 04, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37

However did you get at the doppel at level 5? First time I got there I was level 17 or something.

ac1inferno · Oct 04, 2010, 02:39 PM // 14:39

a run?

12 chars

jensyea · Oct 04, 2010, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Songbringer

For the future if I were you and creating a new char. Always go /n and then vs doppleganger bring awaken the blood+as many skills that sac health that wont hurt you to much. He will kill himself in like 2 seconds.

For now.

I agree with Bliding Flash except he will use it on you so the wanding him idea might not work. Glyph Sac and Glyph of Essence might help if he uses sac on blinding flash then he won't have it for awhile. Maybe Lightning Javelin to rupt him while he attacks. Could also go with Thunderclap if you could tome the elite. He won't move out of the ring that causes daze after a few seconds. So you could wand and interupt him and when he uses thunderclap on you just move out of the way.

Could also bring all the attunements because he will stand at the start and cast them all before he starts casting on you. It works like that with ranger spirits as well. I used to bring like 6 ranger spirits + poison arrow+kindle(back before burning arrow existed) to kill him really easily.

He only uses blinding flash when you have a martial weapon equipped. As long as your using a staff/wand he won't cast it on you. It's the easiest, cheapest method. Especially for survivors as the chance is extremely slim he will be able to hurt you at all. It works pretty similar to FoWsc, a smart UA monk (or any caster class playing in FoW) uses a caster sword/spear/axe and an offhand, rather then a staff or wand + offhand, because the shadow mesmers will not cast Backfire on you since they see you have a martial weapon equipped they think you will be hurting them physically and won't pose a threat casting spells. Even better, they will be wasting their Empathy skill on you since they think they will hurt you that way. In some ways the Guildwars AI is brilliant, in others it's plain retarded.

Oct 03, 2010, 02:19 PM // 14:19	#1
I Likeggs Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2010 Profession: A/E	Trouble with doppelganger, low level As the title states, I'm a level 5. I am an E/Mo. Already tried a few things, but I am open to anything before I decide to just level higher.

Oct 03, 2010, 04:07 PM // 16:07	#2
jensyea Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Underworld Profession: Mo/	Take blinding flash, make sure you have atleast 8 points in air magic, use it every time it recharges and wand him to death with an air staff. Not sure if your able to put 8 points in air magic at lvl 5 (think so), if not use some consumables to boost it up. Piece of cake.

Oct 03, 2010, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#3
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	Use skills that will give you an advantage, things AI can't handle too well. ie. Meteor Shower .. slow cast, long recharge, let doppleganger waste his time casting it and just move out of the way. Doppleganger wouldn't be as clever, and while he is KD by Met Showers you throw in a quick snare and pick him off. Master of Magic would be a great elite at your level, giving you 12 in all elemental attributes. This skill is also great if you would beat Doppleganger in HM as it would gimp his otherwise overpowered attributes down to 12.

Oct 03, 2010, 04:33 PM // 16:33	#4
sonofthort Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Legends Of Melee [SSBM] Profession: Mo/	This requires a bit of skill, but you can actually dodge all of the dopplegangers stuff. I would bring air attunement, blinding flash, and lightning orb. He won't be able to hit you with his weapon, but he can hit you with lightning orb. However, it is possible to dodge lightning orb. Also, as I'm sure you already know, don't bring any healing or defense skills. I might also take the suggestion of putting metoer shower in the build just to make the doppleganger waste time. Glyph of Essence and Glyph of Sacrifice might also be particularly effective as they will disable the doppleganger for a good amount of time after he uses them. GL

Oct 03, 2010, 04:46 PM // 16:46	#5
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	Yeah, I agree on Glyph of Sacrifice, that might work. Master of Magic Glyph of Sacrifice Meteor Shower Blinding Flash Grasping Earth No matter if he use Glyph on MS or BF he's screwing himself over, you can just wand him and finish him of with Glyph + MS. If he cast slow MS, glyph+MS him, run in and snare him with Grasping Earth.

Oct 03, 2010, 06:14 PM // 18:14	#6
I Likeggs Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2010 Profession: A/E	Thanks for all the great replies, blinding flash worked quite well

Oct 03, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13	#7
jensyea Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Underworld Profession: Mo/	No problem, most of the characters I've beaten him with 7/9 or so, used just blinding flash. It works great on every profession. Have fun!

Oct 03, 2010, 10:28 PM // 22:28	#8
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	For the future if I were you and creating a new char. Always go /n and then vs doppleganger bring awaken the blood+as many skills that sac health that wont hurt you to much. He will kill himself in like 2 seconds. For now. I agree with Bliding Flash except he will use it on you so the wanding him idea might not work. Glyph Sac and Glyph of Essence might help if he uses sac on blinding flash then he won't have it for awhile. Maybe Lightning Javelin to rupt him while he attacks. Could also go with Thunderclap if you could tome the elite. He won't move out of the ring that causes daze after a few seconds. So you could wand and interupt him and when he uses thunderclap on you just move out of the way. Could also bring all the attunements because he will stand at the start and cast them all before he starts casting on you. It works like that with ranger spirits as well. I used to bring like 6 ranger spirits + poison arrow+kindle(back before burning arrow existed) to kill him really easily.

Oct 04, 2010, 12:44 AM // 00:44	#9
I Likeggs Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2010 Profession: A/E	The /N idea is a great one, and I will surely be doing it in the future (:

Oct 04, 2010, 01:03 AM // 01:03	#10
Ailina Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: Whats Prot Spirit [FoR] Profession: R/	Also, you can go /R and bring a pet and pet skills. He is then completely useless, since he doesn't have a pet and thus can't use any of your skills, and he'll go down in like 3 seconds. Also, PvE skills are great, since he can't use them.

Oct 04, 2010, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#11
ac1inferno Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS] Profession: A/W	For more strategies against the Doppelganger for each profession, visit: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Augury_Rock The Wiki also has a lot of useful information on other things.

Oct 04, 2010, 06:29 AM // 06:29	#12
Do A Barrel Roll Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Neptune! Guild: [SNOW] Profession: W/	I always go /w when I start new characters, just for the doppelganger. The only skill I bring is frenzy, always works :P

Oct 04, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37	#13
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	However did you get at the doppel at level 5? First time I got there I was level 17 or something.

Oct 04, 2010, 02:39 PM // 14:39	#14
ac1inferno Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS] Profession: A/W	a run? 12 chars